Pete Buttigieg

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1,193 appearances 7 recordings 6 series first heard Oct 2025 last heard 10 May

Pete Buttigieg’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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I mean, either way you look at it, right?
Actually, if you're low income, dollars in your pockets is going down when you account for what they've done with the subsidies.
I mean, remember, this is... I don't care how you measure it.
Which subsidies?
Can you name me a measure?
Can you name a measure by which it is not... I'm asking you.
Yeah, I don't have a line item breakdown in front of me.
What I'm telling you is that it is not...
terribly contested, like if anybody listening to this podcast feels like opening up a window and looking it up for themselves just to figure out which one of us is right, it's not terribly contested that the majority of the benefit of TCGA and OBBA went to wealthy people.
And it's definitely not contested, or I'd say generally not contested, that OBBA represents one of the largest transfers of wealth from lower income people to upper income people in global history.
How do you measure that?
You can measure it in terms of wealth before and after.
You can measure it in terms of the incidence of the different forms of taxation.
You can measure it in the total package that accounts for subsidy as well as benefit.
I mean, any number of ways.
But again, if you measure it a different way, I'd love to hear it because I don't regard this as something that's deeply contested, but it sounds like you have a measurement in mind that's different.
And I'd love to run with it and look it up so I can see where you're coming from.
And to be clear, again, because the Laffer curve turns out to be bullshit, we did not just grow our way out of the deficits that created, right?
Let's just say I would love for identity to play a less central role in the politics of our country and in the politics of my party.
And not just because I might have been passed over for an opportunity, but just because I think it has really dominated so many people's thinking in a way that makes it harder for us to build a message across identities.
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