Pete Smissen

So, yeah, she would go hiking with him and apparently they were out one time and this American couple were hiking in the same place and walked up to them and started chatting to them but didn't recognise them and was chatting to the guy and he was like, oh, yeah, I've met the queen.

See, that's why, I don't know, those sorts of stories coming out, and I guess, you know, people are only going to share the positive when she's passed, but made me think, oh, man, I would love to have known this person.

Well, I remember we went to the Atheist Conference, right?

Yeah.

Back in 2010 and met Richard Dawkins.

And I remember lining up to have my book signed.

Yeah.

And there were probably a thousand people lined up, literally.

Like, because it was straight after the conference had finished for the day or whatever.

And he was just sitting there.

And he signed every single book.

And you're just like, my God.

How many signatures has he made?

He was there for hours.

He was literally there for hours.

And he would have a chat with each person.

So, he's not making any money out of this.

You brought your own, yeah.

Well, there probably were somewhere, but yeah.

I didn't see them.