Pete Smissen

Off the beaten track.

Oh, we're in another town.

Yeah, but, Dad, it's a different beach and it's slightly warmer.

Well, yeah, there is that.

I guess I should explain the joke there is that pretty much every English speaker will only know of Shetland because of Shetland ponies, which are those miniature- Or the TV show, the crime show now that's been on for the last eight years or so.

Yeah.

So, I don't know.

I guess that's, yeah, what I wanted to kind of talk about.

So, you prefer that.

Do you think most Aussies are like that?

Do you think they prefer the kind of four-wheel drive, go somewhere, explore?

It is interesting how much that-

Like, four-wheel drive camping culture in Australia, especially among younger guys.

For me, growing up, it was just a normal thing.

You're just like, isn't that what all young people do?

Yeah.

And then once I started, I think I probably realised more when I started doing Aussie English.

Well, no, it was more about Aussie English and meeting foreigners and then asking them, oh, like, you know, in China, where do you go camping?

And they're like...

No one does that.