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You're running low on soldiers.
You're running low on soldiers.
What he's saying is, you have to accept whatever deal I make with Putin. You don't have any power. You're not able to influence things. And that's a really extraordinary thing to say to the leader of a country at war. He's saying, you don't get to choose here. I'm the one who's going to choose here.
What he's saying is, you have to accept whatever deal I make with Putin. You don't have any power. You're not able to influence things. And that's a really extraordinary thing to say to the leader of a country at war. He's saying, you don't get to choose here. I'm the one who's going to choose here.
What an extraordinary moment, right? Right. These two leaders really going at it over who and what happens in this conflict in the heart of Europe.
What an extraordinary moment, right? Right. These two leaders really going at it over who and what happens in this conflict in the heart of Europe.
They do. This is where clearly a lot of weeks, if not months of tension have come to the surface and they're just exploding in this meeting. And they're saying what they have been thinking or feeling for quite a while. And it just escalates rather than de-escalates. And you finally get to the point where Trump is relitigating the whole Russia investigation.
They do. This is where clearly a lot of weeks, if not months of tension have come to the surface and they're just exploding in this meeting. And they're saying what they have been thinking or feeling for quite a while. And it just escalates rather than de-escalates. And you finally get to the point where Trump is relitigating the whole Russia investigation.
He says, Vladimir Putin and I went through this whole Russia hoax.
He says, Vladimir Putin and I went through this whole Russia hoax.
What an amazing thing to say, right? The person he clearly feels a bond with is Putin, not with Volodymyr Zelensky, who runs a democratic country that has been allied with the United States and is under fire.
What an amazing thing to say, right? The person he clearly feels a bond with is Putin, not with Volodymyr Zelensky, who runs a democratic country that has been allied with the United States and is under fire.
Finally, Trump lays down his cards and he says, but you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
Finally, Trump lays down his cards and he says, but you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
Basically, either you're with us, either you go along with what I'm going to do or we're out. We'll abandon you. We'll abandon you. It's a very stark threat.
Basically, either you're with us, either you go along with what I'm going to do or we're out. We'll abandon you. We'll abandon you. It's a very stark threat.
And then the reporters are escorted out of the room.
And then the reporters are escorted out of the room.
Exactly. This deal is supposed to be signed. They're supposed to use this deal to put the relationship on a new foundation going forward. And now with the cameras out of the room, are they going to make apologies or at least smooth it over? And will they still have the lunch? Will they still sign the deal that was the whole point of him coming in the first place?
Exactly. This deal is supposed to be signed. They're supposed to use this deal to put the relationship on a new foundation going forward. And now with the cameras out of the room, are they going to make apologies or at least smooth it over? And will they still have the lunch? Will they still sign the deal that was the whole point of him coming in the first place?