Peter Van Sant
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Howard Schultz, who at the time was the chairman of Starbucks. Here's a man who had come from poverty, built, along with Linda, a million-dollar-a-year dog training business, and he falls prey to the most base emotions. And then when Michael Oakes joins the fray, he, according to him anyway, is threatened by Stover, including a reference to possibly harming Oakes' kids, which freaked him out.
Howard Schultz, who at the time was the chairman of Starbucks. Here's a man who had come from poverty, built, along with Linda, a million-dollar-a-year dog training business, and he falls prey to the most base emotions. And then when Michael Oakes joins the fray, he, according to him anyway, is threatened by Stover, including a reference to possibly harming Oakes' kids, which freaked him out.
And then all of these people in this churn of emotion, we end up with this tragedy. So it's one of the things that in true crime, people can do, the smartest people can do the dumbest things. And that's part of the fascination. And with the time we have to tell this story, you go down that road of obsessive behavior and control.
And then all of these people in this churn of emotion, we end up with this tragedy. So it's one of the things that in true crime, people can do, the smartest people can do the dumbest things. And that's part of the fascination. And with the time we have to tell this story, you go down that road of obsessive behavior and control.
And Mark Stover demanding meeting after meeting and demanding Michael Oakes turn over, why this was his obsession, I don't know, his wedding photos with Linda. And they had these meetings after meetings because Linda didn't know where the wedding photos were in this move. She thought she'd left them behind. And it turned into this bizarre thing where they would meet and argue and confront and
And Mark Stover demanding meeting after meeting and demanding Michael Oakes turn over, why this was his obsession, I don't know, his wedding photos with Linda. And they had these meetings after meetings because Linda didn't know where the wedding photos were in this move. She thought she'd left them behind. And it turned into this bizarre thing where they would meet and argue and confront and
According to Oakes, that last meeting was another one of these where he was coming into an accord is to meet with Stover about the wedding photos. Then he goes into his house and then Oakes claims there's this drama, there's this confrontation and a shot is fired and that he just happened to be wearing a bulletproof vest just in case things got dangerous.
According to Oakes, that last meeting was another one of these where he was coming into an accord is to meet with Stover about the wedding photos. Then he goes into his house and then Oakes claims there's this drama, there's this confrontation and a shot is fired and that he just happened to be wearing a bulletproof vest just in case things got dangerous.
And that he wrestled a gun away dramatically, like in a movie, like the action hero that he is. I don't believe that story for a moment, by the way.
And that he wrestled a gun away dramatically, like in a movie, like the action hero that he is. I don't believe that story for a moment, by the way.
Yeah, I'm not buying. I do not buy Michael Oakes' story for a moment.
Yeah, I'm not buying. I do not buy Michael Oakes' story for a moment.
First off, Maggie, you're safe. I don't, no matter how this interview goes, I... When I covered the Gulf War, it was the first time that I came face to face with the dark side. I was with a group of Marines. And when we went into Kuwait and they're driving out the Iraqi army.
First off, Maggie, you're safe. I don't, no matter how this interview goes, I... When I covered the Gulf War, it was the first time that I came face to face with the dark side. I was with a group of Marines. And when we went into Kuwait and they're driving out the Iraqi army.
You'd just be amazed when a gunship, one of your gunships goes overhead and they're strafing and you know on the other side, the enemy who's trying to kill you is being obliterated. You know, it's a whole different side that I didn't think was there. You see how quickly people from every walks of life turn into killers. It's those extremes, right?
You'd just be amazed when a gunship, one of your gunships goes overhead and they're strafing and you know on the other side, the enemy who's trying to kill you is being obliterated. You know, it's a whole different side that I didn't think was there. You see how quickly people from every walks of life turn into killers. It's those extremes, right?
And in this case, in this story, we have people who believed their lives were in danger. Michael Oakes thought Stover was out to get him. Stover thought he had told his new girlfriend that he thought Linda Updike and perhaps her father were out to get him. Linda Updike thought Mark Stover was out to get her. And she tells a story.
And in this case, in this story, we have people who believed their lives were in danger. Michael Oakes thought Stover was out to get him. Stover thought he had told his new girlfriend that he thought Linda Updike and perhaps her father were out to get him. Linda Updike thought Mark Stover was out to get her. And she tells a story.
When I was at her house, and this house is set in the countryside, and there was nothing really around her. It was just this rural area without trees. And she looks out her window and there on the hillside is Mark Stover, according to Linda, holding a hunting rifle with a scope on it.
When I was at her house, and this house is set in the countryside, and there was nothing really around her. It was just this rural area without trees. And she looks out her window and there on the hillside is Mark Stover, according to Linda, holding a hunting rifle with a scope on it.