Petra Bagust

Some people are always going to strive for something else, and that's okay.

But I think that women have to have options.

We have to have choices and be like, what pen will I pick up and what will I write?

What's my next chapter?

And I want women to pick up a pen and go, oh, this is a really exciting chapter.

Yeah.

where I get to show up as myself and be brave and courageous and, you know, fight off some of my demons, learn new things, take risks.

I've already fallen over, like you say, so I know how to get up.

Okay, how's that for a life hack?

Becoming more amused with yourself and the wonderful wacky world around you.

For me, that sounds like not crucialising every little thing and it feels like relief.

Coming up, we talk about the tendency for women to blame themselves when things go wrong.

Hmm, I can see a pattern here.

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Can I ask, in this great New Zealand doco that it's not out yet on menopause that you have been roving around the country making, was there a kind of a standout?