Petra Bagust

Somebody with, you know, a lot of profile comes along.

You're like, oh, that's an easy yes.

I'm interested in their story.

And this is going to be mutually beneficial.

Somebody else comes along and I'm like, this is important.

And I need to try and invite my people in to hear what this person has to say because what they've got to say is additive, even if it's sometimes confronting or challenging or confounding.

Like we have to spend our selves, goodness, in pursuit of the goodness of others, I think.

Oh, damn it.

You're in a lot of trouble.

I agree, make politics boring again.

Imagine only being angry once a fortnight, wow.

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I hear you say that you're able to stand up and speak out because you're not doing it in isolation on your own.

You are deeply connected into, plugged into the goodness of your community.

I mean, I saw your post about Connor Dog, your beautiful boy who you've just recently lost.