Phil Stewart

And I remember we would travel in and out of what was then the FAR guerrillas' demilitarized zone.

They had a country inside Colombia that was all theirs, about the size of Switzerland.

And as journalists, yeah.

And as journalists, it was our job to go in and out of that.

And, and sometimes that would be, you know, you just didn't know, you know, whether or not you might have some problems coming in and out of that area with the, because these are teenagers with guns, you know, patrolling those, the border of that zone and always worried about, about folks.

And, and, and I guess another time would be when I, after there was a coup against Chavez.

And I remember when,

Our folks in Caracas needed, you know, flak jackets and helmets and bulletproof vests because there was gunfire in the streets.

And I got in a plane and I brought it over there.

And then in the wake of the coup, I landed with an American passport.

And the folks at the airport in Caracas were wondering...

you know, was I CIA, you know?

And there was a moment there where I thought to myself, I should have come with more documentation, you know?

But it was, you know, I had a good conversation with them.

My pleasure.

My pleasure.

Thanks.