Philip Goff

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Eye On A.I. · How Modern Science Got Consciousness Wrong From the Start | Philip Goff · 29 Jun 2026 podcast

Um obviously, w whether or not that you think of the human brain as a computer, it can certainly do computations.

Is is it the more computational aspects of our brains that render us conscious, or is it the more biological aspects?

And McClellan goes through you know the proponents on both sides.

Um, Annal Seth, for example, on the biology side, who I I interviewed for my Substack last week, actually.

Um, and uh you know, people on both sides of this discussion and think actually the

The way they're interpreting the evidence just depends on the assumptions they already have.

It's very hard to ask, you know, what kind of what kind of test could you give to sort of settle that whether compute whet whether consciousness is biological or computational.

So it is very difficult.

Now I'm not saying I'm not giving up.

I want to keep going with this, and I want to keep I think really what we need is ph scientists and philosophers work.

Working together.

What we might have to do, I think, is temporarily fragment the field into scientists working under certain philosophical assumptions, working together with philosophers in terms of how the experiments are designed, in terms of how of the results are interpreted, and just see which which paradigm bears fruit.

Because at the moment,

We don't seem to be seem to be making progress.

But you know, I guess as a panpsychist, I'm more on the sort of biological side than the computational side.

Because for a panpsychist, consciousness is the stuff of reality.

It's as it were the flesh and blood of the physical universe.

It's not about abstract, you know, computational.

Processing.

So my philosophical starting points make me very skeptical that large language models or anything resembling them are going to end up being conscious.

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