Philip Goff

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Eye On A.I. · How Modern Science Got Consciousness Wrong From the Start | Philip Goff · 29 Jun 2026 podcast

You know, I can't look in your brain and see your feelings.

This is why it's so hard to ascertain whether a fish or a fly ha ha has consciousness.

So, you know, the the the

best we can do is um

Is study human beings, scan our brains.

Because if you're dealing with a human being, you can ask them, you know, what are you feeling right now?

And scan their brains and try and correlate which kinds of activity are going, which kinds of experience, and then basically extrapolate from the human case.

Um and

It's it's proved very difficult.

And look, I I I'm I'm I'm optimistic and I'm enthusiastic about that task.

But the fact is it it hasn't thus far got the result the expected results.

You know, there's famously 25 years ago um the neuroscientist Christoph Koch bet the uh bet the philosopher David Chalmers that this would all be wrapped up by now.

You know, we'd have the neuroscience.

Correlates of consciousness all agreed on.

And uh a couple of summers ago he he he publicly recanted, publicly gave in on that on that bet and and gave David Chalmers the crate of fine wine he'd promised him.

And uh, you know, there's there's more and more people now saying it's not clear we're ever gonna be able to conclusively set settle this.

I mean, an interesting paper by uh

Um Tom McClelland at Cambridge has just come out arguing for permanent agnosticism on a core question here that's that's of great relevance to AI.

Is consciousness biological or computational?

Right?

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