Philip Goff

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Eye On A.I. · How Modern Science Got Consciousness Wrong From the Start | Philip Goff · 29 Jun 2026 podcast

Um, and other other scientists of consciousness are making different

assumptions about the markers of consciousness.

So it's it's it's this is not very uh you know optimistic.

I mean look here's here's one thing actually that that hardly anybody is focusing on that might be a way forward.

If consciousness brings brings with it new forms of causation, um new forms of uh causal operations that aren't completely reducible to known, understood chemistry, neuroscience, um

If that were the case, so that's a very sort of non-reductionist story, philosophers tend to call this strong emergence, right?

Where there's just new kind of fundamental causal principles pop up that can't be reduced to underlying chemistry and physics.

If that were the case, that would be wonderful because you could then empirically see from the outside the markers of confidence.

Consciousness.

Um, I don't know anyone in the science of consciousness who's focused on that.

I think because the dogma of the moment is a very reductionist story that really there's just physics.

That's the physics is running the show, and everything else is just more or less convenient ways of describing the world.

Um so, so yeah, look, it's it's it's it's all we're at a period of the science of consciousness.

were the rules of the game are not clear.

And and it's exciting as well as stressful.

Frustrating.

Well, I suppose I I just don't see why we shouldn't think of that as something purely mechanistic.

I mean a lar y you could equally say, you know, how can we explain large language models responding in a way that seems intelligent, seems to have understanding without any kind of consciousness?

Well, you know, w

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