Philly McMahon

But we saw a loud last year struggle after winning Leinster for the first time in a long, long time.

And then Dublin and Loudon Sunday, it's an interesting one.

Obviously Dublin had a really comprehensive win against Loudon in the last semi-final, their best victory of the season.

They looked sharp, they looked hungry.

We talked a lot about Cormac Costlow at the time and how it was probably one of his best ever Dublin performances.

He really led from the front.

Then the Westmead game, they were missing a couple of key players.

They lose another Leinster Championship game after losing to me last year.

And now all of a sudden, it's kind of hard to know what to expect from Dublin.

Obviously on paper, you'd expect Dublin to win considering they won by 10, but it doesn't feel like they're going in as huge favourites.

Albeit Dean Rock did say after the Leinster final that Conor Callaghan, Lee Gannon, Colin Buskell and Owen Merchant could be back.

No.

what that means we don't know they might all play they none of them might play but if they had all those four guys back it would be pretty significant but like what's your read on where dublin are at like it was one step forward two steps back that's it inconsistent you know that's the key you know you looked at them against loud um and you're kind of going right okay they're on for you know winning the lens they're here like you know

Same against Galway last year.

Yeah, exactly.

There's a very small crowd at the Leinster final.

It was more Westmead fans than Dublin fans at the Leinster final, which is pretty shocking.

Something that we were actually talking about upstairs, the idea that like some of the guys like Brian Fenton, say Paul Mannion, guys who aren't like that old, like they could be playing, like they're physically capable of playing and they're not for whatever reason they decided to step away.

And the idea that like when they would have been young players like the guys are now, there would have been veteran players there who stayed on quite a lot.

I'm kind of...