Pierre LeBrun

I mean, you don't want someone to go into this with preconceived notions of what he needs specifically.

Like, I think it sounds to me like this is going to be quite a wide net being thrown here, that he wants to talk to a lot of different people before making up his mind.

Yeah, how many people are capable of doing this job?

But...

Well, no, this is it.

I mean, so the last time that the Leafs hired a GM, they didn't talk to that many people.

I mean, Brad Treliving was hired.

Brandon Shannon also talked to Mark Bergevin, among a few others, but it's a pretty tight circle.

This sounds like it's going to be a lot more people than that that have discussions with MLSC, and ultimately we'll see where they end up on the other side of that in terms of a two-person approach or multiple hires, like I said.

And at the end of the day, the retool versus rebuild question is going to be answered by Austin Matthews more than anyone else.

Let's be real.

You know.

Well, I mean, he brought up Austin and Gino hit him with the rebuild versus retool.

The point is, Judd Moldaver, the agent for Austin Matthews and Austin Matthews himself will have a huge say over that.

But having said that, I mean, to your point, Brian, about...

you know, going into these interviews and ownership hearing what they want.

Like, it's interesting that when Cal Dubas got the job in Pittsburgh, one of the things I heard from other candidates who went through the interview process is that some of them were a bit too honest, they felt, in the sense that they told the owners at the time, Fenway, you need to tear this whole thing down.

Like, we need to rebuild here.

And Dubas is one of the few guys who said, we can do both.

We can try to be competitive, which is what Fenway wanted to hear, but also start restocking the shelves.