Pierre Walshtrom

Okay.

You talk about ADP there and you mean in the tracking, you can see the steps there.

It's true.

Obedience is the biggest changer.

And I don't have the answer.

I mean, for example, these jumps, if we take that one.

Total different what the dog shall do in one and three.

And I think sometimes when you are sitting there in a group with rules, I mean, they have done an amazing job.

I mean, robot Mark Schlager, who is the president now,

He had opened a door to everyone.

I mean, it was a conference for not so many weeks back that he opened the door for 500 people, not only judges.

So everyone could log in.

And it's so transparent for the moment.

So they are open for everyone's ideas.

And that was an amazing seminar.

So there is a changing going on.

But to answer that question, I think when you're sitting there, you get so involved.

In that part of the changing, you forget the reality.

And the best example of that is those, how do you call them, the boxes after the jumps.

I was at the first championship, the first one was in Italy.