Pierre Walshtrom

So this is the... I'm not against stick hit.

Of course, I like to test the dogs.

I like to test the temperament.

But I'm working with temperaments test every day.

This is my passion.

This is my work since...

30 years there is lots of different ways to test the character of a dog without hit them with something and if our support shall survive you have to think about to explain for someone who never see to explain for your grandmother why do you hit the dog with a stick why do you hit the dog

And maybe some people say it's not necessary to explain for your grandma now, but if the grandmother is a political worker in some countries, and they use that, so we need to go step forward everything and take away things that can stop our sport.

People are stopping the sport today, try to stop it in some countries because dogs biting, you know what I mean?

Correct, correct.

I try to...

I try to explain and educate people that our dogs, our sport dogs, have no interest in biting people.

They have interest in biting the prey that presents.

Okay, Pia, but why do you train aggressions?

Yes, you don't need that aggressions or defense work.

You can get a lot of points without it.

But some dogs, if you want to compete with them during many years, you have to work with all the characters, different characters, braveness, fighting drives, prey drives, aggression drives, willing to please drives, and so on.

You have to use your whole register in some dogs.

That's the reason we opened them.

But you can send in a super, the world champion, you can send into a group of people.