Pierre Walshtrom

I wish that what you are saying...

Is that how it should work normally?

And the same is if you compare it to the horse sport.

I mean, the racing when they are catching, trying to get the horses faster or jumping higher or whatever.

It's a little bit connected to each other.

People today don't understand really this physical way to touch dogs or animals in general.

For people who have no idea about animals, also for people who have idea, having a blockation in their head to accept that it is allowed to, in this case, the stick hit in the program or to give the horse whatever they do with the horse when they touch them with these sticks they have in the race.

I should be impressed.

The one who solved this problem will have a Nobel Prize, Ivan.

I like that way the organizations protect our animals.

We need them.

We must have an opposite side to all this violence going on around the world on all kinds of animals.

I know that you agree with this.

And I mean, people think that

people say that you and i and the super nice trainers in all over the world we are hard we are hard to our dogs we are abusive to our dogs when we have the leadership over them i mean i

I put a lot of attention now to teach people that the leadership is not violent.

Leadership is not a question of corrections or number of how many times you have to correct your dog.

It's a normal way of life of a pack member when you are a dog.

But we start already there, that if you have a leadership over your dog, you are hard and a violent person.

Any name.