Piers Morgan

There's no doubt that on the Russian side, they believe they were provoked into doing this. I know that you have sympathy with that view. There's also no doubt from the Ukrainian side that they believe since the 90s they've been this sovereign democratic country, albeit not perfect. You think deeply flawed. I think they've been imperfect, trying to improve.

There's no doubt that on the Russian side, they believe they were provoked into doing this. I know that you have sympathy with that view. There's also no doubt from the Ukrainian side that they believe since the 90s they've been this sovereign democratic country, albeit not perfect. You think deeply flawed. I think they've been imperfect, trying to improve.

And Zelensky has actually, I think, been a force for good, not bad. But ultimately, what's happened now... is that you have a situation where, as Donald Trump told me recently, it's just the mowing fields now, where you have thousands of young men being killed, often on a daily basis, both sides. And no one's winning this war, it seems to me.

And Zelensky has actually, I think, been a force for good, not bad. But ultimately, what's happened now... is that you have a situation where, as Donald Trump told me recently, it's just the mowing fields now, where you have thousands of young men being killed, often on a daily basis, both sides. And no one's winning this war, it seems to me.

And Zelensky has actually, I think, been a force for good, not bad. But ultimately, what's happened now... is that you have a situation where, as Donald Trump told me recently, it's just the mowing fields now, where you have thousands of young men being killed, often on a daily basis, both sides. And no one's winning this war, it seems to me.

And if anyone is going to win it, it's likely to be Russia, not Ukraine. And then what happens? And that concerns me enormously. If the West allows Putin...

And if anyone is going to win it, it's likely to be Russia, not Ukraine. And then what happens? And that concerns me enormously. If the West allows Putin...

And if anyone is going to win it, it's likely to be Russia, not Ukraine. And then what happens? And that concerns me enormously. If the West allows Putin...

to just take the land he's taken what guarantee do we have he won't try and take the rest of Ukraine he took Crimea he's back for more I think he wants the whole of Ukraine I think he won't stop there if he's allowed to get it I think he's a pretty ruthless evil Russian dictator um how are we defining just to find the term so we can follow the same yeah what's a dictator

to just take the land he's taken what guarantee do we have he won't try and take the rest of Ukraine he took Crimea he's back for more I think he wants the whole of Ukraine I think he won't stop there if he's allowed to get it I think he's a pretty ruthless evil Russian dictator um how are we defining just to find the term so we can follow the same yeah what's a dictator

to just take the land he's taken what guarantee do we have he won't try and take the rest of Ukraine he took Crimea he's back for more I think he wants the whole of Ukraine I think he won't stop there if he's allowed to get it I think he's a pretty ruthless evil Russian dictator um how are we defining just to find the term so we can follow the same yeah what's a dictator

A dictator to me is somebody, well, I would start by saying you have no respect for democratic norms, a free and fair election.

A dictator to me is somebody, well, I would start by saying you have no respect for democratic norms, a free and fair election.

A dictator to me is somebody, well, I would start by saying you have no respect for democratic norms, a free and fair election.

Well, you wouldn't argue that Putin, for example, has free and fair elections.

Well, you wouldn't argue that Putin, for example, has free and fair elections.

Well, you wouldn't argue that Putin, for example, has free and fair elections.

Well, your comparison with Zelensky and Putin over the last two years, I found baffling. Because you seem to think there's some moral equivalence between the two. And Zelensky hasn't illegally invaded another country. Right. Do you not have a problem with what Putin's done?

Well, your comparison with Zelensky and Putin over the last two years, I found baffling. Because you seem to think there's some moral equivalence between the two. And Zelensky hasn't illegally invaded another country. Right. Do you not have a problem with what Putin's done?

Well, your comparison with Zelensky and Putin over the last two years, I found baffling. Because you seem to think there's some moral equivalence between the two. And Zelensky hasn't illegally invaded another country. Right. Do you not have a problem with what Putin's done?