PJ Vogt

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333 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 16 Jan

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Hard Fork · Can We Build a Better Social Network? · 13 Jan 2026 podcast

It first came up on air way back in May of 2024.

I was interviewing Casey Newton, co-host of the Hard Fork podcast, the writer behind Platformer.

We were having a depressingly familiar conversation about the internet.

And I asked Casey whether there was anything hopeful around the corner, anything that made him feel optimistic.

We should all be upset that we have to talk about the Fediverse.

Talk about the Fediverse.

But in a way that my mom can understand it.

Casey was, I have to admit, doing a not-so-great job of explaining this thing, which to me was a warning.

Casey's very good at explaining internet phenomena.

If he was flailing here, maybe the topic was just too dense for a podcast like ours.

I wasn't sure how to handle it, and so in that episode on Mike, I made this half-hearted promise, which is that if we got lots of listener emails asking for a more in-depth explanation of the Fediverse,

then we would look into it.

I really was not expecting much feedback at all.

Instead, we got so many emails, more than we'd ever gotten on any topic.

Just the whisper of a notion that some better internet was out there and that all we had to do was finish building it, that was something people were very curious about.

So that year, I started talking to some of the people trying to build the Fediverse.

The story these people told me went like this.

Basically, all of them, as different as they were from one another, had a shared view of what had gone wrong with our internet.

The way they saw it, in the 90s, even in the early 2000s, our internet had truly been an open place.

Infinite websites, infinite message boards populated by all sorts of people with all sorts of values, free to live how they wanted in the little neighborhoods they'd made.

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