PJ Vogt
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first heard Jan 2026
last heard 16 Jan
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and how we can interact with each other are set by the platforms.
And that while there might be people with healthier or just different ideas about how these platforms could work, because you want to go to the place where everyone you know already is, those new ideas don't circulate very often.
And so what I find interesting as a testable game, and not just sort of like a stunt that we could do because we're journalists, is...
Well, as someone who really truly has become almost Amish in my dislike of social media internet, with you guys, what would it be like to try to make a clubhouse that has rules that actually feel healthier?
And what will we learn about
Not just like, obviously, it's very hard to make a good internet.
I don't think anyone's done it.
But like, how good are the tools with which someone perhaps smarter, more patient, or more committed than us might be able to do it?
That's what I find interesting about it.
Part of what I heard Casey saying was that to him, the worst case scenario for the internet might be essentially where we already were, which meant any shot at changing things, even an unlikely one, at this point, you had to try it.
Better to risk being a fool than commit to being a cynic.
So he was in too.
Three people who had spent years critiquing social media companies would now become social media micro moguls.
We would build our own little piece of the Fediverse.
Which I thought shouldn't be too hard.
You can actually just go to Mastodon, the website, and use their platform to set up your own little microserver, what they call an instance.
A lot of people are technologically savvy enough to do that.
And in this case, by a lot of people, I really just meant Kevin, because I assumed Kevin Roos would do most of the work.
Kevin, something you should know about him, he loves to experiment with new technology.
He does this constantly at his job covering tech at the New York Times.
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