Professor Avi Loeb (Host)

So there would be representatives from all of these organizations, they already met once, and we serve them in the sense of providing scientific advice.

Now, for the government to come out and admit that they're not doing their job, that's the report from Kozlowski, that's quite unusual, but also for them to ask scientists to be involved,

That is very significant, I think, and I feel that it's my duty as a scientist to do the best I can to provide the advice and guidance to the Pentagon as to how to resolve the nature of UAP.

And here is the interesting point that if you don't care about national security, you might say, why should we, in fact,

cooperate with the government and we should just examine this subject scientifically and try to collect our own data.

That's what I'm doing with the Galileo project.

But the advantage of working with the government is that, you know, if the down-to-earth interpretation of the unusual objects would be to say they're human-made, and then it means that there is a breach of national security.

So that motivates...

further inquiry that motivates investing funds in research and analysis of the data such that we can figure out the nature of these objects, because apparently adversarial nations are spying on their strategic assets within the US.

which I would say is not a huge surprise by itself because there was the Chinese spy balloon discovered in 2023 and shut down.

And for every ant that you find in the kitchen, there should be thousands of ants hiding in the cabinets.

So if you find one and there should be a lot of balloons that flew over the US that were not recognized and there could be a lot of drones and these orbs could be drones now.

If that is the case, which is the most down to earth explanation, which any intelligence agency should worry about, that means one has to put more research and effort in finding out the nature of these objects.

And obviously in the process of collecting data,

eventually it will become clear what they are, and there wouldn't be any uncertainty.

And that's exactly the transition from the time when Galileo Galilei looked through his telescope, realized the Earth is not at the center because the moons of Jupiter are moving around Jupiter.

That was the first time someone reported that, but then the Vatican resisted.

However,

350 years after Galileo died, the Vatican admitted in 1992 that Galileo was correct.

Why did they do that?