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Quinta Jurecic

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The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

And Roberts, at least in his majority opinion, seemed kind of like offended by the fact that prosecutors were going after these actions to begin with. That that wasn't gentlemanly in some way, let's say. And I do think that if... This is essentially like saying, you know, if the moon were made of cheese.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

And Roberts, at least in his majority opinion, seemed kind of like offended by the fact that prosecutors were going after these actions to begin with. That that wasn't gentlemanly in some way, let's say. And I do think that if... This is essentially like saying, you know, if the moon were made of cheese.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

But if Trump had come in with a number of very well-designed sort of surgical test cases to really push the limits of presidential power in a way that I think a court that is disposed to a very particular vision of executive authority would have been really sympathetic to, that you could absolutely see the court ruling in his favor on those issues.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

But if Trump had come in with a number of very well-designed sort of surgical test cases to really push the limits of presidential power in a way that I think a court that is disposed to a very particular vision of executive authority would have been really sympathetic to, that you could absolutely see the court ruling in his favor on those issues.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

And it may still on some of these, you know, like the ability to remove the FEC commissioner, for example. But coming in and just kind of wrecking everything and then saying to John Roberts, like, hey, you're going to back me, right? I think is not very appealing to Roberts who wants to see himself as the custodian of this kind of wise apolitical institution.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

And it may still on some of these, you know, like the ability to remove the FEC commissioner, for example. But coming in and just kind of wrecking everything and then saying to John Roberts, like, hey, you're going to back me, right? I think is not very appealing to Roberts who wants to see himself as the custodian of this kind of wise apolitical institution.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

And I know that people are going to listen to me and think, But of course, the court is just a political institution these days, you know. I think that certain justices on the court, certainly Roberts, I think Amy Coney Barrett, want to be seen as more than politicians in robes and that that is going to guide their behavior more.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

And I know that people are going to listen to me and think, But of course, the court is just a political institution these days, you know. I think that certain justices on the court, certainly Roberts, I think Amy Coney Barrett, want to be seen as more than politicians in robes and that that is going to guide their behavior more.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

And so for that reason, I am very skeptical that things like, you know, trying to assert a really aggressive presidential impoundment authority or assert this sensible reinterpretation of birthright citizenship are going to make it through designed as they have been designed.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

And so for that reason, I am very skeptical that things like, you know, trying to assert a really aggressive presidential impoundment authority or assert this sensible reinterpretation of birthright citizenship are going to make it through designed as they have been designed.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

You know, there are a lot of ways, like I said, where there are particular authorities the executive could have used to say, we're going to tweak this funding, you know, we have this authority, etc. Or they could have said, actually, Congress puts this condition on this funding stream, and we think that condition is unconstitutional because, you know...

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

You know, there are a lot of ways, like I said, where there are particular authorities the executive could have used to say, we're going to tweak this funding, you know, we have this authority, etc. Or they could have said, actually, Congress puts this condition on this funding stream, and we think that condition is unconstitutional because, you know...

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

There are national security concerns, and we're going to make an extremely targeted court case to argue that the legislative constraints that Congress has placed on the executive's ability to impound funds are unconstitutional and convince the courts and the Supreme Court on that basis. That would be sort of the clever way to do it, and I think a way that would have given you a lot more luck.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

There are national security concerns, and we're going to make an extremely targeted court case to argue that the legislative constraints that Congress has placed on the executive's ability to impound funds are unconstitutional and convince the courts and the Supreme Court on that basis. That would be sort of the clever way to do it, and I think a way that would have given you a lot more luck.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

in the Supreme Court, the way that they have actually done it, just kind of coming in with a sledgehammer and just smashing everything, is not likely to get the courts on their side. And so if this is a kind of evil master plan to destroy constitutional government, They're not doing it very well. That doesn't mean that it's not extremely dangerous. It is.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

in the Supreme Court, the way that they have actually done it, just kind of coming in with a sledgehammer and just smashing everything, is not likely to get the courts on their side. And so if this is a kind of evil master plan to destroy constitutional government, They're not doing it very well. That doesn't mean that it's not extremely dangerous. It is.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

But I think it's important to be careful about the extent to which we portray this as part of a very well thought through plan.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

But I think it's important to be careful about the extent to which we portray this as part of a very well thought through plan.

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

That seems right to me, and I'll point to another example as well. So one of, I think, the most terrifying things that's happened in the last week, and it's difficult to rank them, is the news of Elon Musk's kind of wrecking crew of young men

The Ezra Klein Show
What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

That seems right to me, and I'll point to another example as well. So one of, I think, the most terrifying things that's happened in the last week, and it's difficult to rank them, is the news of Elon Musk's kind of wrecking crew of young men