Rachel Martin

Yeah.

At the end of 2023.

and then it found new life and and it's as a listener i think this is a wonderful thing um i'm sure when it was canceled you were like maybe maybe i'm gonna do something else lean into my writing and you know but but you were given this other shot what do you love about making this show

This is wiretap, right?

We should just take a second and explain to people who haven't heard the show.

I mean, I nodded to it a little bit in the intro, but you really are getting into very intimate parts of people's lives.

You're helping them through specific regrets and longing and

And helping them find closure.

Like someone who's, you know, did something to someone, wronged them 20, 30 years ago, more.

You literally go find that person for them and help them sometimes come back.

Confront them and have a one-on-one exchange.

Sometimes you don't find the person, but somehow through the journey, they've been able to understand their life in a more intimate way.

I mean, it's very emotionally intense work.

I mean, you say you do this work in part just to feel things.

That's a lot of feelings, Jonathan.

Like, it's a lot of living that you're navigating through other people's experiences.

Mm-hmm.

I really love interactions with strangers.

They make me very happy.

They give me life.