Rachel Martin

I got enough feedback from other people I worked with to prove otherwise.

And it was a shock for me when I heard, not directly, but almost more personally, I can figure out what you're communicating between the lines.

And the feedback I was getting was, oh, you are not chill.

You are not a chill person.

Like, you're actually a super intense person.

And your vibes can be intense and it can kind of elevate everybody.

It's not chill.

That was a hard thing.

So I think at its core, the question tends to be about what's a thing, a negative thing you thought about yourself that you had to unlearn.

But the thing that comes to my mind is like, well, I thought it was pretty great.

And it turns out I was kind of a jerk.

That was a revelation to me.

No, but that's so true.

Yeah.

I love the idea of good-ish.

It's interesting to try to teach your kids that.

That's where I'm at right now.

It's like talking about the good-ish of human nature and that we're all good and bad.

And it's a complicated concept actually to wrap your head around because so much of parenting and so much of like children's literature and storytelling is about the good and the bad and they are separate and distinct characters.

And it's like next level to think about