Rafe Hassel
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 27 Jul
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Well, I take those claims extremely seriously and I think they're likely true.
He wouldn't be the first very senior intelligence officer to have succumbed to illnesses that have been claimed to be associated with Havana syndrome.
The whole concept or practice of so-called microwave diplomacy since the 1970s has been
had fallout, it has had casualties ranging from very high ranking intelligence and State Department officials working in that case in Russia.
They came down with leukemia and they have maintained, although it was never fully accepted, that this was to do with exposure to microwave radiation while in post.
I think what has happened now is that, well, we have a claim from a very senior member of the intelligence establishment who has now unfortunately succumbed to their injuries.
And, you know, it's a continuation of the same trend.
And I think there is no reason, or certainly I don't have any reason to doubt that claim at all.
Jesse, your thoughts?
It's a really good question.
And I think there was a certain degree of impulse, impulsiveness about it.
i listened to your conversation i heard jesse speak and i understood that this was a yeah someone who had studied this feminine to a great extent and had um what i've come to learn is and i had an intuition about is an unparalleled experience uh dealing with
dealing with literally thousands of people, from a technical perspective as well as a sort of human one.
And I knew that certainly a percentage, if you could put a figure on it, of those people that he was working with would have been bona fide experiences, or experiencers rather,
of some of the effects and some of the tools and techniques that I had was aware of and had used and had experience of and that this was someone who yeah certainly I could have a conversation with and I
Jesse uses the term whistleblower, but I'm not really whistleblowing from an organization.
I'm whistleblowing about a practice or, let me say, a set of activities that is undertaken by people who are in my position.
And I have views on that.
And certainly I wanted to give Jesse what information that I could that might assist him from my position in terms of someone who is familiar with the things that he's documenting and talking about in his day-to-day role.
Gosh, I'd have to look back at the interview.
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