Rainn Wilson

But when I say that, like, is there something for you, like a hardship or struggle that you underwent that when you were going through it just sucked and you were like, this is the worst thing ever.

And now, and now when you look back on it, you're like, wow, I'm really glad I went through that.

And so many people that undergo cancer are then grateful for their cancer because it reprioritized their life.

To some degree.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I don't know how that works.

Yeah, it's one of these metaphysical questions of like, and sometimes like, I have a son.

He's about to turn 21.

He's had a lot of struggles over the years.

He was a COVID teenager.

That's hard.

And you see, when you have kids, you see their struggle and you can also see the outcome.

And you can even as a parent be like, I'm kind of glad they're going through this struggle.

And I'm glad they're talking about it.

And I'm glad they're dealing with it because they will gain a certain wisdom and

Now, do I like to see my son struggling or unhappy or crying or overwhelmed?

Of course I don't.

But at the same time, as a loving parent, I'm kind of like, you had to go through your first breakup, right?

And you're gonna learn coming out the other side.

I hate to see you crying and I hate to see your heart broken, but I'm kind of glad that this is a good way to have your first breakup.