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Ramtin Naimi

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1465 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I couldn't close the pencil box anymore.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

So I ran to the bathroom and I took out like a garbage bag and I just started stuffing it with cash.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And then that became like a business that ran for like the next couple of years until it didn't really make sense to host parties.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

So how much money would you make on a party or in summer?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I would net like 2000 bucks a weekend.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

Then I would do like two to three parties per month.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

It wasn't until my senior year of high school that I actually made money trading.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I got very fortunate through a combination of lucking out with volatility and not understanding risk management.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

where I was trading out of the money call options and put options against triple levered ETFs that track the banking sector during the financial crisis.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

An ETF that would swing, you know, anywhere between 10 to 30% on a daily basis, given what the Federal Reserve was doing on TARP or no TARP or Lehman getting bankrupt or Bear Stearns getting acquired by JPM.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And I had made a few hundred thousand bucks trading over a few short week windows on derivatives against those instruments.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And that was like a good thing and a bad thing for me.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

The good thing was that it gave me a ton of confidence in myself and I convinced myself that I was a genius.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And the bad thing was it gave me way too much confidence in myself and convinced me that I was a genius.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I decided that I wasn't going to go to college and I was going to start a hedge fund straight out of high school.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I got a Series 65 license, which is the license you need to start a hedge fund.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

There was a local financial advisor that I spent some time with for a summer and he did PWM for some high net worth individuals.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And some of those guys saw me trading on my screen.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

They're like, oh, if you start something, we'll put like 10, 15, 20,000 bucks into it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I ended up raising a fund in January of 09.