Raven

I didn't want to go through that pain again, you know?

And, uh, but then I watched it and then he sent it back to me.

I gave him some ideas and some thoughts on what we should add and subtract.

And he goes, I sent it back to him and, uh, I didn't send it back to him.

I just told him and he, uh, and he sent me another copy.

And then that one took only like four weeks to watch, you know, what was the toughest part to watch?

Do you think?

just the whole thing, just, you know, the whole, you know, like knowing that, you know, it's like Jericho said, he goes, people either love him or hate him.

Knowing that people hate me isn't fun, you know, especially people that I think of as friends, but, you know, or people that are colleagues, you know, work colleagues, you know, but, you know, it's, it's painful not being popular and stuff like that, you know,

I'm okay with it now because that's who I was and I would give that kid a hug now if I saw him.

Yeah, but it's painful though.

I mean, it's not anything I can't handle at this point.

I've dealt with it, but it still wreaks havoc on me when I think about it.

And when I do these interviews, my tremor gets worse because...

you know, the anxiety and the pain, they always make it get worse.

Was it tough filming the documentary with that too?

Yeah, because my tremor wasn't quite as bad back then.

We filmed it like four years ago.

You know, because it takes, you know, a year or two to film, you know, and then a year or two to edit, and a year or two to get it distributed, and a year or two, I don't know, 12 years now.

But no, but... Well, it's out now.