Ray Gutierrez

A lot of men don't kind of understand that, at least the successful men.

He was.

They understand that.

But with women, it's a completely different tier.

He's one of Rudy's homies.

Like, it's almost like...

Correct.

Okay.

Yeah, that's been a lot of time together.

Gosh, it's almost like back to like our savage ways where you'd wear the makeup and you'd be loud to each other.

I was just going to say, yeah.

Before I got my own on-site washer and dryer, thank God, I was doing the app thing, the wash and dry app.

Talk about what it's like to not just be on stage, but the stage of life where it's like you're always on.

And I put in a big green bag and some stranger.

It's quite ironic that a captain found your lighthouse and you're like, it's inside of you.

But I can see the decline of that happening quickly because the first time I signed up, I got my code and a green truck showed up and it was on brand.

And that was the turning point.

This is something we didn't actually speak about in your episode that we're going to talk about in your podcast.

So yeah, we kind of have that philosophy here.

So insert edit here.