Ray William Johnson
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Trilogy Media, they also have a YouTube channel, and they also make videos about busting scammers.
So Pierogi collaborates with them.
I assume because they live closer to the target.
And so instead of sending the package of cash, Pierogi has the Trilogy Media guys...
go to the address that Ben gave them on the phone.
So these two guys, Ashton and Art, they go to the San Francisco address in person.
And surprise, surprise, the location is not a business.
It's just sort of a house.
And Ashton and Art actually find the guy who lives there.
And they start grilling this dude about this package.
Now, the package is addressed to someone named Hans.
But of course, there is no real Hans.
So as soon as this shady guy says that he's Hans, they confront him.
Because now they know that he's in on the scam.
And of course, this dude doesn't admit that he's done anything wrong.
But Ashton and Art are not about to let this guy walk away from this.
So they finally give him an ultimatum.
But the guy still doesn't come clean.
He makes it seem like he's not actually one of the scammers, that he's just the guy who collects the money for them, and that he's actually scared of the people that he works for.
And Ashton and Art don't actually know it yet, but in reality, this is not just a guy who collects the money.