Rebecca Sudore

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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast · Advance Care Planning Discussion: Susan Hickman, Sean Morrison, Rebecca Sudore, and Bob Arnold · 24 Mar 2022 podcast

I think to your point, I think, I don't know if it was Sean or Bob,

are those clinically meaningful and important outcomes for health systems?

I would hope that they are, particularly as we're in ACOs and looking at value-based purchasing and things like that.

I would hope that those things would be important.

The other thing I will say is if health systems take the long game,

you know, are you making your customers happy?

I can tell you my own family, many other patients, if there's a bad situation that happens and a surrogate is not happy about the way things went down and they have decreased satisfaction with care,

um and communication and all of those things they're not going to be coming back to that health system so i i just think that there are ripple effects uh for mistrust that can happen when you know so just to say that i think advanced care you know to get back to geronimo's point i think there are important outcomes um they might not be the original outcomes that we had hoped

Yeah.

Well, I mean, I think...

sort of, you know, old things stick, right?

And because things started out being focused on forms, I think that's been kind of talked about for a long time.

And it's not just late stage palliative care folks, it's people who make decisions at, you know, health systems who think about it the same way.

And so I personally think that we need a massive marketing campaign, whether it's a New York Times article, another JAMA article,

We all scream it from the rooftops, but I think that there needs to be a re-education because first of all, in the public, people are doing this all the time in their churches and senior centers and things like that.

And then you say advanced care planning and they think forms and they're like, nope, not doing it.

But if it's like, hey, it's just doing what you're already doing, talking around your kitchen table.

Oh, I can do that.

And then for clinicians who are like, oh, I have to go to my clinic and somehow find 45 minutes to complete a form with someone.

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