Advance Care Planning Discussion: Susan Hickman, Sean Morrison, Rebecca Sudore, and Bob Arnold
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
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What is the purpose of this discussion and who are the guests on the episode?
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And supported by listeners like you, many of whom have donated on the Jerry Pal fundraising site, which you can find at www.jerrypal.org, big blue button, or through reviews, stars on your favorite podcasting app. Big thank you. Welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast. This is Eric Guadera.
This is Alex Smith.
And Alex, you have a lot of people introduced today. We're going to be talking about advanced care planning, serious illness communication. What's up with both? Is either of them good? We have a ton of questions. And that's why we've invited quite a few people on this show. Who do we have with us today?
We are delighted to welcome to the Jerry Powell podcast, Susan Hickman, who is professor at the Indiana University Schools of Nursing and Medicine and is director of the IU Center for Aging Research at the Regan Strife Institute. Welcome to the Jerry Powell podcast, Susan.
Thanks so much, Alex.
And we have returning Bob Arnold, who is a palliative care doctor at the University of Pittsburgh. Welcome back, Bob. Thank you. Also returning, Rebecca Sidore, who is professor of medicine at the UCSF in the Division of Geriatrics and is a geriatric and palliative care doctor. Welcome back, Rebecca.
Thanks for having
us. And also welcoming back Sean Morrison, who is, quote, one of Bob's followers, unquote, as well as professor and chair of geriatrics and palliative care at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine. Welcome back, Sean.
Nice to be here, gentlemen. So we got a lot to talk about around advanced care planning and serious illness communication. Done podcasts on it before. But before we get into that subject, Susan, I think you have a song request for us.
I do, Eric. I would like to request We Can Work It Out by The Beatles.
You want to tell us a little bit about why you picked this song?
Absolutely. I think it's a really appropriate song. It's a call for discussion and there's a lot of optimism in it. And I think there are a few lines that I think are sort of especially meaningful, including that there's not so much time in life for fussing and fighting. So focus on collaboration and moving forward.
That's great. Terrific song choice, Susan. Here we go.
Think of what you're saying You can get it wrong and still you think that it's alright Think of what I'm saying We can work it out and get it straight or say goodnight We can work it out We can work it out Life is very short and there's no time
Always thought that it's a crime So I will ask you once again Try to see it my way Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong While you see it your way There's a chance that we might fall apart But for too long
You can always tell how much Alex likes a song by how long his intro part is to that
song. That was a great song. It's a lot of fun. Thanks to my younger son, Ren, for helping me work out the triplets in the middle and the rhythm there. Thank you, Ren.
So again, we've had Sean on our podcast talk about advanced care planning and Rebecca to talk about it. James Tolsky came on about this. And we'll have links to all of those podcasts. For this podcast... because there's quite a bit of controversy right now around the value of advanced care planning. Should we be thinking about it differently, including serious illness communication? Alex and I have come up with 13, 14 questions. We'll see how many questions we get through about this particular issue that we're going to direct to particular people However, because we want to ensure that there is a lively discussion debate, I really encourage everybody just to jump in with their thoughts. I think Alex is going to start us off with the very first question.
All right. So this one is directed at Sean. This comes from a New York Times headline from a few months back. And the statement I'm going to ask you, do you agree, do you disagree, or do you sort of agree? And here's the statement, the headline.
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