Financial Mistakes and Exploitation in Dementia: Lauren Nicholas, Duke Han, Jason Karlawish
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
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What early financial signs signal the onset of dementia?
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And on to the show. Welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast. This is Eric Wadera.
This is Alex Smith.
And Alex, we're going to be talking about financial mistakes and exploitation and dementia. Who do we have with us to talk about this?
We are delighted to welcome Lauren Nicholas, who is a health economist in the Division of Geriatrics at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in Denver. Lauren, welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast.
Thank you. Happy to be here.
And we're delighted to welcome my friend, Duke Hahn, who is a clinical neuropsychologist and professor of psychology in the Dornsife College at the University of Southern California. I know Duke extremely well. We have played sing-alongs at the annual Beeson Aging Researcher Meeting for like 15 years or so. Duke, welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast.
It's great to be here, Alex. I'm a big fan of your show, so thanks for having me.
And we're delighted to welcome back Jason Karlawich, who's been on several times to talk about his book about dementia and other things. He's a geriatrician and medical ethicist. He co-directs the Penn Memory Center at the University of Pennsylvania, and he's executive producer of the Age of Aging podcast. Jason,
welcome back to Jerry Pal. Thanks, Alex. Great to be back with you guys. So we've got a lot to talk about in financial capacity, mistakes, and exploitation and dementia. But before we do, we always start off with a song request. Who has a song request for Alex?
Duke not only has the song request, he's going to play the song. What? Which
is great. Thank you, Duke. Wait, Alex, this is like the second time or third time, I guess? Something like that, yeah.
We used to do it more often when we had more in-person stuff.
Duke, what song are you going to play? I'm going to actually play All the Wrong Reasons by Tom Petty. Why did you pick this song? So I think it's all the wrong reasons part, honestly. I think that always called to my mind older adults becoming entrapped in scam and fraud. And I think it's just a really unfortunate situation. And yeah, and I think there's other references to socioeconomic considerations throughout the song. So yeah, it always reminded me of financial decision making. Let's hear it. All right.
The drummer blew in on a cold, dark wind. He came without no warning. And the big old house went up for sale. They were on the road by morning. Whoa, whoa. The days went slow. That was lovely, Duke.
Love
it. Aw,
thanks. Thank you, Duke. That was terrific.
And for those who are watching this on YouTube, you can see all of the music posters behind Duke. You've been
playing for a long time, Duke? Yeah, for a little while. I'm a big music fan, just like Alex. So, yeah, been around. Well, let's
dive into this topic.
Let's dive into this topic at hand. Financial capacity, exploitation, mistakes in older adults, and dementia. Lauren, I'm going to turn to you first to kind of kick us off on this topic. Because you've done some really interesting previous research looking at... When does both wealth start declining and also people's ability to kind of make these decisions? What have you learned in your past research?
Well, I guess I have to start by noting that our research was kind of an attempt to put big data numbers on work that lots of other people in this group, including Eric and Jason, were, you know, really publicizing in both guidance for physicians and, you know, I think some of like Jason's patients who were willing to talk to the New York Times and So that was what first got us interested in this was kind of these stories of kind of catastrophic financial losses being the trigger that led to family members discovering a loved one had dementia. And so we got kind of interested in both how common is this? How much money are people losing? Can we see it in large-scale data in ways that might help us eventually catch things early and prevent some of these losses?
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