Illia Polosukhin

So one thing that people don't realize when they use Entropic, OpenAI, or even worse, you use something else for inference, OpenClaw actually sends all your secrets to those services as well.

Yeah.

So somewhere in Entropic and OpenAI logs, they have everybody's access keys, API keys, and bearer tokens to access your Gmails and your Notions.

Yeah.

Ironclad fixes that.

Like, the keys never touch a limb.

Well, the story was that I left Google to start Near AI, which was an AI company.

We were teaching machines to code, which is a fancy way to say vibe coding.

And in 2017, everybody thought we were somewhere between delusional and doing science fiction at work.

When I would go and tell people, no, no, machines will write all the code.

Like, don't worry about it.

People wouldn't believe me.

And we were too early, right?

That was a real, real challenge.

And so what we were trying to do at the time was trying to get a lot more training data.

And so we had students around the world, Eastern Europe, China, Southeast Asia, who were doing small tasks, small coding tasks for us to generate training data for us.

And we had challenge paying them, right?

You know, students in China don't have bank accounts.

They have WeChat Pay.

Eastern Europe, every country has its own some kind of restrictions.