Rebecca

Well, yeah, but I mean, just because... I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment of, you know, education is the way out, but... They need support.

Yeah, but they need support to show that this is my... I can get a good job.

I can not literally now go to university.

I'm not talking about because DCU.

I can do an apprenticeship.

I can be...

electrician.

The whole emphasis, we lost the whole apprenticeship system.

It's now being brought back.

But now Bolton Street is gone and children have to, well, adults in 18 and 19 have to go down the country for a certain amount of time.

That is impossible.

Whereas when it was old Bolton Street and you went in and you did your classes, it was in Dublin and people made great jobs and made great careers.

And I've often met past pupils from Ballymun and they've done very well for themselves.

And what that woman said about parents, I don't think punishment, punishment on children does not work.

Punishment on parents does not work because what do they gain by it?

We need to bring the parents into the school and if they had more contact with the school and if schools were more welcoming...

two parents with a coffee morning.

I don't mean like open.

I don't mean a whole gang of parents in.

Just specific parents who are struggling and are looking for help.