Rex Ryan

Yeah.

And then there's a set of rules.

Like, you know, you can't have the Sunday World sitting in the back with the recorders.

So I was in my theater.

I said to my wife, I go, I'm just having a meeting.

She says, with who?

And I says, Gerard Hutch.

Yeah.

He was in prison when I chatted to him, but yes.

So I got the Zoom link, I went downstairs to the office and my plan was, I didn't have too much of a plan, but I knew I wanted to play him.

I knew I wanted to tell this story and I didn't want, big thing for me was, I didn't want to do this, even though I hadn't seen these people in years and I'd begun, you know,

I was totally disconnected from that world.

But I didn't want to do it without his agreement.

And there's a number of reasons for that.

A lot of my favorite films are biopics about people with similar backgrounds and all those things.

I did know that the directors and the writers often had a connection with them.

And you have to be careful with it.

You have to keep it distant as well, because I have to stay as objective as I can.

But I knew that if I was going to try and do this...

to a high level, I needed to get the blessing and I needed to be around him to get the energy and to help me write the script.