Rhiannon Lambert

It's like a whole bowl of it.

Oh my gosh, focaccia is a dream, isn't it?

I'm obsessed.

Julia had a second rec.

I love it because to me, it's almost like which cups are full in your life.

And I mentioned when that one listener said to us, what would you do if you didn't have kids and more time?

And I said, I want to see friends more because that burner is empty.

Is that what this is?

And it was a necessity.

Do you know, it's very interesting because there's this notion that Ella and I have discussed before, and I said to Ella how I feel about it, working hard but hardly working is not true.

It almost upsets me a bit because I look back at that grafting phase.

I mean, I still consider, I think I am still grafting, but nowhere near what I used to do before children.

I think having kids makes you stop doing that to a certain level.

There's only so much you can do with childcare and X, Y, Z.

But it's unrealistic that you can be as successful as Deliciously Ella and not be running or shooting, what do you call it, putting out fires every day, consistently, consistently grafting, showing up, being at X million places in one day.

It's just impossible.

And I do believe that society sometimes sells this notion to us that we can do it all.

But I go back to the quote we use all the time with Rita Lobo with the fact that, you know, women enter the workforce.

There was nowhere to fill that gap in the home.

And suddenly there is a burden upon all of us that is impossible to fill.