Rich Shapiro

Yeah, the box truck lifestyle, it's really related to how insanely expensive housing is in the Bay Area. These young people moved there to be part of this AI-focused community that But not all of them could get jobs in the field or make enough money. So there's a lot of group houses, there's roommates, some squatting.

Yeah, the box truck lifestyle, it's really related to how insanely expensive housing is in the Bay Area. These young people moved there to be part of this AI-focused community that But not all of them could get jobs in the field or make enough money. So there's a lot of group houses, there's roommates, some squatting.

And Ziz came up with the idea of living on a boat to try to avoid the high rents. She and some compatriots bought a tugboat in Alaska and piloted it down to the San Francisco Bay. But the plan ultimately fell apart. The tugboat sank and Ziz moved the group to box trucks.

And Ziz came up with the idea of living on a boat to try to avoid the high rents. She and some compatriots bought a tugboat in Alaska and piloted it down to the San Francisco Bay. But the plan ultimately fell apart. The tugboat sank and Ziz moved the group to box trucks.

Yeah, so Ziz spoke and spoke out of turn quite frequently.

Yeah, so Ziz spoke and spoke out of turn quite frequently.

And her concern was the diet that the jail had been giving her. She said it wasn't vegan. And so she was starving, essentially.

And her concern was the diet that the jail had been giving her. She said it wasn't vegan. And so she was starving, essentially.

And she also talked about being almost delirious and that that made it such that she couldn't really help in her defense.

And she also talked about being almost delirious and that that made it such that she couldn't really help in her defense.

They were not released. The prosecutor had pointed out Ziz's flight from prosecution in Pennsylvania. And a footnote in this story that we haven't even talked about.

They were not released. The prosecutor had pointed out Ziz's flight from prosecution in Pennsylvania. And a footnote in this story that we haven't even talked about.

Ziz's hometown paper in Alaska actually published an obituary for her. And that isn't even the only fake death in the group. Several years ago, on the same day in August 2022 that the Coast Guard was searching the bay looking for Ziz's body, a lawyer told the California court that he believed his client, Gwen Danielson, had died by suicide. Ziz and Gwen, they stayed on the tugboat together.

Ziz's hometown paper in Alaska actually published an obituary for her. And that isn't even the only fake death in the group. Several years ago, on the same day in August 2022 that the Coast Guard was searching the bay looking for Ziz's body, a lawyer told the California court that he believed his client, Gwen Danielson, had died by suicide. Ziz and Gwen, they stayed on the tugboat together.

Now, as in last month, Gwen's father has spoken to some media outlets saying that Gwen left the Zizians but is alive and maybe now will come forward and talk about what the group is trying to do or has done now that Ziz is in custody.

Now, as in last month, Gwen's father has spoken to some media outlets saying that Gwen left the Zizians but is alive and maybe now will come forward and talk about what the group is trying to do or has done now that Ziz is in custody.

Yeah, that's right. On Monday. We hope to hear more. It will also be interesting to see if another law enforcement agency will try to take them into custody to get some answers about what happened to Michelle's parents.

Yeah, that's right. On Monday. We hope to hear more. It will also be interesting to see if another law enforcement agency will try to take them into custody to get some answers about what happened to Michelle's parents.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.