Richard Barris

You're going to turn off young voters.

They thought that they could ignore all of that.

And oh, don't worry.

People are going to go out there and ballot chase.

I'll just call up Elon Musk, and he'll throw some millions behind it.

I mean, it doesn't work that way.

You need both signal, you need a message, and you need to have infrastructure on the ground that can then take care

and harness the energy that that message has created.

And people aren't understanding, it can't be one or the other, it really has to be both.

I remember, and we actually showcased this guy on the show, I remember before 24, we were, it's late October, and we were polling Pennsylvania, which we were tracking into the end,

And a voter in Philadelphia, this black man in Philadelphia voted for Biden.

It was telling us a story.

They had been like the Obama game was on loan over there.

Steve Harris had a ground game.

I think a lot of people think this isn't true because she lost.

She still had a better ground game.

Her problem was that her message, her signal was trash.

And this guy had us cracking up.

They knocked on his door three times, including in the weekend before the election.

And he would not fill his ballot in.