Rick Strassman

And, you know, then there was a serpent spoke to Eve, took the apple, ate it, gave it to Adam.

Yeah.

And then out of the garden.

Well, you know, lots of people in the psychedelic community anyway

you know, look at the tree of knowledge of good and evil as some indication of God being jealous and didn't want any competition, didn't want to be like, you know, God did not want man to become like it.

And part of that was keeping the two early people away from the tree of

of knowledge of good and evil.

It's not simply the tree of knowledge, but the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which I think is an important distinction because once they ate from the tree, they were embarrassed because of their nakedness, and then they hid, thinking they could hide from God, and they didn't believe that before.

They kind of went into good versus not good, good versus evil, as opposed to true versus false, which was their original state.

So before their eating of the apple or whatever the fruit was, they just lived in truth or falsehood.

And then after eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, then they were embarrassed and tried to hide, made themselves tree-like coverings from the leaves of large trees.

Yeah, so you look at it as if it were happening.

There was Adam, then there's Eve, there's the serpent that speaks.

Well, that's the chapters I was looking at very carefully the last month or so, is what happens early on with Adam and Eve.

It's a really very straightforward, doesn't take much thinking really to put it together in a way that makes sense.

Yeah.

But can't you take off clothes whenever you want?

Well, that story could originate or that way of looking at things could originate with Adam and Eve.

Right.

Well, there's two kinds of enlightenment.