Rick Strassman, MD, is a Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the University of New Mexico School of Medicine. He is the author of several books, the most recent of which is 2024's "My Altered States: A Doctor's Extraordinary Account of Trauma, Psychedelics, and Spiritual Growth."www.rickstrassman.com Buy 1 Get 1 Free Trucker Hat with code ROGAN at https://happydad.com Visit https://WildPastures.com/rogan today to get 20% off for life, plus $15 off your first box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All day. This is a book I wrote 11 years ago. Oh, okay. I haven't gotten that one before. Yeah. It compares... Well, let's see. Are we going to... We're up. Yeah. Yeah. It compares the DMT state to the state of prophecy in the Hebrew Bible. Do you think they're the same thing? Well, the phenomenology is pretty similar.
Like if you read Chapter 1 of Ezekiel, there's flames and there's angels and there's wings and there's eyes on the back of wings and there's roaring sound and blue ice above the person. He flies through space. Yeah, quite psychedelic.
Yeah, wheel within a wheel, the description of the things that people – usually they try to say that it's some sort of a UAP. That's the common thing that people like to say, right? Well, it could be. Which also might be connected. It could be a DMT vision though. Oh, easily. Yeah. Well, you know the guys out of Jerusalem that think that the whole burning bush thing was DMT.
Yeah. Well, that was the first theophany of Moses. Yeah. First time he had a prophetic experience.
Yeah. And I mean, it's like that's what it is. It's literally a plant that has high levels of DMT. And if you burned it and smoked it. It's kind of crazy that that's the way it comes. I really applaud you for learning ancient Hebrew so you could go back and read it. In the original tongue, which is really fascinating.
Didn't you say it took 16 years to learn it? That prophecy book took 16 years to write, and I had to learn Hebrew while I was reading and doing the writing. It's amazing. What's cool is the Hebrew word for bush, burning bush, is the same as Sinai, Mount Sinai. Really? Yeah, yeah. The word's the same? The same root.
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