Rick Strassman

Yeah.

Well, how passive shall we be?

It's like DMT in a way.

I mean, it would just transport you to a whole other reality.

Well, I guess it would be endogenous DMT being tweaked.

It would be steered in a particular direction, though.

And that's where the mind or the manipulation thing you just mentioned, I think, plays out.

You know, who's going to decide and how is it going to be, you know, put together?

Well, it's interesting to compare what's going on now with what happened in Nazi Germany.

You think it's the same?

They're very similar, yeah.

I spent a lot of time reading concentration camp literature, so that got me interested in the development of the Nazi state.

Well, an attempted coup and a period of rehabilitation, ostracization, and return, a triumphant return.

And then gradually replacing people with other people that are loyal to the person.

It's quite similar.

Murders, too.

There were murders, the burning down of the parliament, those kinds of things.

There were two assassinations, one in, I think, the early 20s, one in the 30s, late 30s perhaps, after the Nazis took over.

No, no, back in the 20s and 30s.

Oh, okay.