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Rita Kozlov

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204 total appearances

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How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

And you're like, oh, you know, in retrospect, that was a mistake. Or I'm so glad we did that versus, you know, because it really does take a long time for these things to play out. Like in one or two years, you only see the beginnings, if any, of the ramifications of the different choices. And yeah, I think it's always there's a quote for this or something like that.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

And you're like, oh, you know, in retrospect, that was a mistake. Or I'm so glad we did that versus, you know, because it really does take a long time for these things to play out. Like in one or two years, you only see the beginnings, if any, of the ramifications of the different choices. And yeah, I think it's always there's a quote for this or something like that.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

But anyway, yeah, you get less done, I think, in a year than you set out to. But at the same time, you get more done, I think, in five years than you would have thought you would. So when I look at how much is available on the platform now in terms of, you know, like primitives, that blows my mind. I don't think I would have predicted that we would at this point have

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

But anyway, yeah, you get less done, I think, in a year than you set out to. But at the same time, you get more done, I think, in five years than you would have thought you would. So when I look at how much is available on the platform now in terms of, you know, like primitives, that blows my mind. I don't think I would have predicted that we would at this point have

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

object storage, queues, workflows, logs, like there are so many AI, there are so many products. But then there are other things that, you know, one of the first PRDs that I worked on at some point was gradual rollouts. I think that was one of the first things that Kenton and I talked about.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

object storage, queues, workflows, logs, like there are so many AI, there are so many products. But then there are other things that, you know, one of the first PRDs that I worked on at some point was gradual rollouts. I think that was one of the first things that Kenton and I talked about.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

I would talk to a customer and they'd be like, you know, it's super cool that I can push out a change and it's live to your network of 200 data centers in less than 30 seconds. But that also terrifies me. Can I please have a lover by which it happens over time? And there's this weird thing that happens where you're like, yes, that makes a ton of sense. Let's start building it.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

I would talk to a customer and they'd be like, you know, it's super cool that I can push out a change and it's live to your network of 200 data centers in less than 30 seconds. But that also terrifies me. Can I please have a lover by which it happens over time? And there's this weird thing that happens where you're like, yes, that makes a ton of sense. Let's start building it.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

And then a ton of stuff gets in the way where you're like, OK, but we really need to do this first. priority and this is another priority and all of these things kind of come up and there's unexpected complexity because this is another thing about, you know, building something for a long time is, you know, as you grow, you get more teams, there's more interdependencies.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

And then a ton of stuff gets in the way where you're like, OK, but we really need to do this first. priority and this is another priority and all of these things kind of come up and there's unexpected complexity because this is another thing about, you know, building something for a long time is, you know, as you grow, you get more teams, there's more interdependencies.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

So all of a sudden you realize like, okay, we built, you know, the like that part, but we need this other part and we need to connect these dots. And so, yeah, certain things definitely take longer than you expect them to. And then other things, A year ago, you were asking about how these innovation weeks come together. And, you know, probably like a month and a half, two months before that.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

So all of a sudden you realize like, okay, we built, you know, the like that part, but we need this other part and we need to connect these dots. And so, yeah, certain things definitely take longer than you expect them to. And then other things, A year ago, you were asking about how these innovation weeks come together. And, you know, probably like a month and a half, two months before that.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

Last year's birthday week, we're like, we have to get AI running on Cloudflare. And we'd announced Constellation previously, which was the original iteration of it. And that was where we got a lot of feedback that was like, this is cool, but I need GPUs. And we went from idea to...

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

Last year's birthday week, we're like, we have to get AI running on Cloudflare. And we'd announced Constellation previously, which was the original iteration of it. And that was where we got a lot of feedback that was like, this is cool, but I need GPUs. And we went from idea to...

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

ai running on gpus all over our edge in less than two months so that's yeah kind of thing where you would expect it to take longer and you know that's the magic sometimes of having a deadline or forcing function is we're just like we just don't have the time for it to take a long time so it's just going to happen real fast

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

ai running on gpus all over our edge in less than two months so that's yeah kind of thing where you would expect it to take longer and you know that's the magic sometimes of having a deadline or forcing function is we're just like we just don't have the time for it to take a long time so it's just going to happen real fast

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

Yeah, I think to your point about having primitives, right, that's where, I mean, what allows us to sometimes get the stuff running so quickly is we build on workers. A lot of our new announcements are built on workers. So at the very least, getting to a POC can happen really quickly. Workers, AI...

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

Yeah, I think to your point about having primitives, right, that's where, I mean, what allows us to sometimes get the stuff running so quickly is we build on workers. A lot of our new announcements are built on workers. So at the very least, getting to a POC can happen really quickly. Workers, AI...

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

is actually largely runs on something that we talked about during birthday week, runs on containers. This is a big conversation that we've been having internally about, is that something that we expose to customers or not? The fact that we've had this platform for some time and we originally built it for Cloudflare runs a browser isolation product as a part of our zero trust suite.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

is actually largely runs on something that we talked about during birthday week, runs on containers. This is a big conversation that we've been having internally about, is that something that we expose to customers or not? The fact that we've had this platform for some time and we originally built it for Cloudflare runs a browser isolation product as a part of our zero trust suite.