Rizwan Virk

But we don't want to say that to anybody else because we sound crazy.

So meaning it would have had to come through a physical object.

And so my question about UAP and my favorite theory, there's a lot of theories about UAP.

There's the alien theory, extraterrestrial hypothesis.

There's aspects of the religious hypothesis.

interdimensional beings.

There's the djinn that we talked about earlier, right?

I mean, in fact, in Jacques' work, he talks a lot about folk tales from Northern Europe and about these beings that lived there, but they weren't physical.

And you can go back and find similar tales in the Middle East related to the djinn.

So we'll come back to that in a second.

So there's lots of different theories.

But when you think about whether the UFO is physical or not,

I think we're asking the wrong question, right?

Because it's a question of when is it physical and when is it not?

So in this case, we have a situation where it's almost like it was being projected into our reality, right, as like a holographic thing.

And so there's, in video games, you know, there's that time while it's rendering.

And during that time, you can walk through the walls or, you know, you can put your hand through the table.

But then once the table is rendered...

it's pretty solid at that point, right?

Like now I can't put my hand through it.