Rob Mahoney

Yeah.

I mean, Cordelia definitely has like cool aunt energy in that way.

I know.

It's a noble aspiration for all of us.

And I agree with everything that both of you guys are saying, especially in terms of the moral authority that she's kind of projecting and giving this sage advice, ultimately being undercut by everything that she is and does.

The hypocrisy is like, that's present through every character in industry, pretty much.

All of these people are talking out of both sides of their mouth, are making moral compromises, are trying to believe in one thing and selling themselves short and making deals they shouldn't make in order to continue chasing whatever it is they need to chase.

And I think her speech, honestly, hits me even harder because of that.

Because I think there's a part of her that believes all of these things.

And yet there is also clearly a part of her that is, whether it's pragmatic or otherwise,

making these concessions to Otto, making these concessions to her husband.

It's like, it's the acid dipped version of like the America Ferreira speech in Barbie.

And it hits in like a really, really visceral way that, I mean, it's just incredible writing.

And frankly, I didn't know that Claire Forlani had this in her in terms of performance.

I've never seen her do anything like this before.

I'm just kidding.

Meet Joe Black, for the record, terrible movie.

It has its defenders, and I don't know where those people are coming from.

That's where they're going to be.

If you have a full-throated defense of me, Joe Black, I would genuinely love to hear it.