Rob Russo

That's true.

Rob?

Yesterday, the premiers and territorial leaders, three or four of them were here.

One of them was Doug Ford.

And he was asked by the CBC's Catherine Cullen about the relationship he has with Mark Carney.

And the first meeting that they had at that restaurant, that diner in Etobicoke, and he kind of pulled back the curtain a little bit, which he says he's loathe to do, but he was eager to do yesterday, perhaps because he needed a channel changer.

But he said the first thing Mark Carney said to him before they – as they were sitting down for breakfast that morning at their initial meeting was –

Mark Carney is saying this, Doug Ford, I'm more conservative than you are.

And so we shouldn't be surprised.

We shouldn't be surprised if there are conservatives.

I think Tonda McCharles at Toronto Star has done some pretty good reporting overnight suggesting that Aaron O'Toole and James Moore may be on this panel.

And that is an attempt clearly to expand support and maybe put a little pressure on Mr. Poiliev as well.

Although we should note that there is not as much daylight in terms of the thrust of the posture, the posture more than the thrust of the two leaders positions on trade with the United States.

I think Mr. Carney's disdain for the previous group of his advisers was clear.

Did he ever meet with them?

I'm not sure he ever even met with them or even acknowledged them in any way.

So he clearly has gone in a different direction as prime minister than Justin Trudeau.

And he clearly thinks that he wants other advice, other kinds of advice.

He had very little time for some of the people that were on the other panel.

I think the makeup of this will tell us what kind of advice he's going to get.