Rob Wiblin
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1,787 appearances
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first heard Sep 2024
last heard May 2025
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I've heard kind of mixed opinions about how re like is it completely reassuring if they're if it seems like they're mostly thinking through chain of thought.
Um and you know, we can read we can read what they're what they're uh what they're saying and uh conclude that you know that there seems to be no scheming going on.
I mean, like one possibility is that they might be able to uh like be scheming uh you know during during forward passes without writing that down.
And kind of they they know uh uh during each forward pass that they would like to be scheming, but they just uh never
Yeah.
So I think we should measure to see what we're doing.
This is scheming without chain of thought.
That's right, yes.
like without chain of thought is going to struggle even more.
Oh
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
What other um you know concrete updates might you be able to get about the promisingness of control?
Okay.
Yep.
Yep.
I guess yeah, if someone's listening and they're interested in joining in and helping with the with the control agenda, it seems like there's there's tons of ideas and lots of experiments that could be run to see how all these things work and uh you know, how how you could harden them and make them even even even more useful.
I g I guess they could reach out to you potentially.
Are there other steps that they could take to to get up to speed and like other organizations they could work with?
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