Rob Wiblin
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first heard Sep 2024
last heard May 2025
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I feel like the thing that we actually care about is like wanting to have cooperative relationships with with other agents and other beings that have preferences and goals.
Um there's like reasons to do that, even apart from like any concern about um you know happiness and suffering and so on.
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I guess y you wrote this post, um, ten people on the on the inside, which uh it's quite short, people could go read it.
It seemed to be suggesting that you think it does make quite a big difference whether at a leading or even like lagging AI company, it matters quite a lot whether absolutely no one cares about control and alignment and and trying to trying to like steer steer away from these risks, or like even a small number of people do.
So you say like it's substantially better to have ten people who really care about this uh within a within a project than
than zero.
Does that suggest that we really want people to kind of spread out if if they're concerned about this and be willing to go and work in companies where they're in like quite a distinct minority?
Yeah.
And is that uh okay, I and and the reason I mean, I think many people would have said in the past, like going and being the one person in a generally reckless, uh disinterested uh company is a bit hopeless because you just won't have the capital to act to actually get anything up.
But because you've had this framing, what is the cheaper stuff that we can do?
And you found that there's some very cheap things that would be quite helpful, you're like, well, actually, you know, having ten people who would who would push for this, or maybe they could get it over the line 'cause it's not even that big an ask.
Mm-hmm.
I guess they'll they'll need a bit of compute as well.
Uh and so they might have to like yeah, c compete for that.
But again it's like not a huge amount.
That's right.
Yeah.
You mean it would be that would be able to advance the research just fine, uh with with with the meta?
Oh.
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