Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

I know Doug Collins over at the VA already has, I think, 21 studies going over there, and they're very, very promising.

And what are they using at the VA?

I think they're using combinations of MDMA and psilocybin.

Maybe using Ibogaine.

And I think they're looking at a number of things, including ayahuasca and Ibogaine.

Who are gonna be the people?

Yeah, you need those guidelines because you don't wanna make the wild west.

Exactly.

You're gonna have horror stories overnight because people, as you know,

You know, some people can have very, very bad experiences on that.

I mean, you know, we're looking at ways to get it done so that it's in a very controlled setting.

For me, personally, I would like to see that.

You know, we need to move in baby steps with this because you don't want to create a situation where people are getting hurt.

You shouldn't have a soldier –

who has given everything for the country, who has suffered terribly, who has to go to Tijuana to get these treatments, who has to leave our country in order to get the treatments.

It doesn't make any sense.

Yeah.

I mean, I had a family member whose life was transformed by it.

And, you know, I've been in recovery for 43 years.

So and I go to a meeting every day.