Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

who has given everything for the country, who has suffered terribly, who has to go to Tijuana to get these treatments, who has to leave our country in order to get the treatments.

It doesn't make any sense.

Yeah.

I mean, I had a family member whose life was transformed by it.

And, you know, I've been in recovery for 43 years.

So and I go to a meeting every day.

Oh, it's pretty hard to convince me that you can fix what's wrong with you by taking something outside of you.

But I have seen so much overwhelming anecdotal evidence but also clinical studies that attest to the effectiveness under some circumstances with some people

or these medicines.

And I think you've got Jay Bhattacharya at NIH and Marty Makary at FDA who are all doing whatever they can to make this happen.

I mean I didn't know what to expect and, you know –

I didn't know when I came in, I didn't know the president that well.

So, you know, but from the beginning, he was empowering me.

And, you know, I never made an agreement with him about anything.

And the first time he asked me whether I wanted to be HHS secretary, I said, I don't think so.

I wanted to be maybe a health czar in the White House.

And then I thought about it.

and thought, no, I really won't be effective unless I'm in this agency and can actually get into the weeds and it has 82,000 employees and the biggest budget in government and that would actually give me the power to change the system.

And so then I went back to him and I said, I want HHS and he said, fine.

And then he allowed me to appoint all of my sub-agency heads, which no president has ever done with an HHS secretary in history.