Robert Hart
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first heard Aug 2026
last heard 4 Aug
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So you've kind of got a bit more of a personalized model.
And
I think important for a lot of the debates we're seeing now as well is that they're a lot less monitorable and it's a lot harder for providers, say Anthopic, OpenAI in these cases, to put in the safety rails that might stop it from doing something that you would want it to do.
Yeah, I mean, there are a lot more restrictions that they might put on it.
So some of the ones that are coming out now, they'll have licenses that you have to pay them over certain thresholds.
But yeah, it's a lot more flexible in that way.
To again get annoyingly wonky, it is a bit more complicated than that.
But by and large, it is a reasonable characterization.
The most prominent US models, kind of as you said, Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, their frontier models are all proprietary.
They're all closed systems.
And in China, by and large, a lot of them are open weight.
There are exceptions, obviously.
So Alibaba in China, for example.
Until its most recent release, a few earlier this year in its frontier scale were proprietary.
It kept them closed and it evidently changed its mind this week.
And in the US, there is still a big ecosystem of openweight players.
I mean, Meta is the most obvious that comes to mind, who've been making strides recently, but also Google.
I mean, it's not the top tier Gemini ones, but their general models are quite popular and there's sort of a huge spectrum in between that.
I wouldn't go as far to say it is quite a deeply entrenched divide like that, but I think it is quite tempting to see it like that.
I think partly it is business pragmatism in China.
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